Posts by Sea Breeze

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Another new missing part of the Bible found

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22011278/new-bible-chapter-hidden-verses-discovered-erased-scribe/.

i wonder what the remaining members of the gb will make of this?.

i excited to read all of this once it’s released and compare with the rest of mathew.

Sea Breeze

The article you cite is vague. It doesn't mention the name of the manuscript that it is referring to.

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses view faithfulness to Jehovah as being equivalent to faithfulness to the Governing Body?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i thought this was an interesting response to the question.

"being faithful and loyal to god implies or includes.

being faithful to your spouse (hebrews 13:4),.

Sea Breeze

If you quit going to meetings, people accuse you of leaving Jehovah. After a constant barrage, people just accept that they are the same. It’s weird how they replace Jehovah, little by little.

If you go to a different church they also accuse you of leaving Jehovah.

The funny thing is that in their own Bible, Jehovah instructs people to listen to Jesus at the transfiguration.

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GB voice of Jesus....

by enoughisenough in

a short sweet video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ekihoczyfg she put a link to the whole video if you care to watch.

here is the thing that came to my mind: by isolating just that part, the part sounds rather hubris, shocking, audacious.

when the jw hear it couched in a talk and woven in with scriptures, they will take it in without giving a real thought as to what is really being said..

Sea Breeze

A big WOW to that..... amazing. Thanks for posting.

Thankfully, Jesus warned us this would happen.

Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. - Mt. 24:4-5

Jesus said, "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me" ( John 10:27 )

Why would Jesus say to listen to his voice when the GB says to listen to theirs? Was Jesus trying to protect us?

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An emerging new global authority at how it will affect believers

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

good day believing brothers and sisters, .

i have to inform about latest information concerning the set up of a global authority.

we have waited un to be empowered.

Sea Breeze

And the price of fuel has dropped significantly. That must also be arranged by Jehovah so that our flight will be cheap.

we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.- 1 Thess. 4

When the trump sounds and Jesus evacuates believers before the GT, I don't think the price of fuel will have much to do with it.

Christians will fly united, not United Airlines.

Titus 2:12–13 says that the grace of God teaches us “to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.” This passage identifies the “blessed hope” as the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior.,

The next event on God's timeline is the Rapture. Christians are not appointed unto wrath

The Rapture (or snaching away) is the "blessed hope" for Christians..... not roughing it out during the GT. Tribulation believers will have to do that, not the church.

I believe Jesus will rescure his bride before the wrath of God is poured out on earth. He is not a wife-beater.

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The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

by Sea Breeze in

i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

Sea Breeze

peacefulpete,

I can't hear you either, but know what you just said. Is God greater than a computer?

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UK Hospital using Kingdom Melodies - complaint

by AEnEm in

i found out that a uk hospital (nnuh) uses kingdom melodies as hold music, apparently for some years!

i called and heard it myself.

i wrote an email to the complaints team and await a response.

Sea Breeze

Good job AEnEm !

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Jesus 2nd Coming

by punkofnice in

full disclosure, i am an atheist/slight agnostic and really don't believe in god/s.. however, i do find solace in a good evensong at the cathedral.

because one of my kids came with me, it has inspired him to become a christian and hence got baptised in a uk high church (anglican cum catholic hybrid).. so, i take him to visit different places eg, ely cathedral.

he likes me to accompany him to his new church.

Sea Breeze

The below information is the predominate timeline agreed to by most evangelicals. It is copied from gotguestions.org. About 2 years ago, I conducted a study of Revelation using material from a number of highly regarded sources with wide authority and it is identical. This is literal, premillinnial format. There are basically three different views of Revelation. All cannot be true. The literal, premillinnial is the predominate view in non-Catholic (and high-church) Christianity and was the most widely held position of the early church fathers prior to Augustine.

I still have the study workbook (Compiled by an accounting Phd. professor friend of mine) complete with charts and references. He has taught the course several times. He and I spent a year tweaking it and making it more understandable for someone with a JW background. If anyone is interested, message me and I will email to you.

Chapters 1-3 bring us up to the present time. The church is not seen in Revelation after chapter 3.

Revelation Timeline (starting with Ch. 4):

1. The rapture of the church. Christ comes in the clouds to “snatch away” all those who trust in Him (1 Corinthians 15:52). At this same time, the “dead in Christ” will be resurrected and taken to heaven, too. From our perspective today, this is the next event in the eschatological timeline. The rapture is imminent; no other biblical prophecy needs to be fulfilled before the rapture happens.

2. The rise of the Antichrist. After the church is taken out of the way (2 Thessalonians 2:7–8), a satanically empowered man will gain worldwide control with promises of peace (Revelation 13:1; Daniel 9:27). He will be aided by another man, called the false prophet, who heads up a religious system that requires worship of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:20).

3. The tribulation. A period of seven years in which God’s judgment is poured out on sinful humanity (Revelation 6–16). The Antichrist’s rise to power is associated with this time period. During the tribulation on earth, the Church will be in heaven. It is thought that at this time the Judgment Seat of Christ and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will occur in heaven (2 Corinthians 5:10; Revelation 19:6–10).

4. The Battle of Gog and Magog. In the first part of the tribulation, a great army from the north, in alliance with several other countries from the Middle East and Africa, attacks Israel and is defeated by God’s supernatural intervention (Ezekiel 38–39). (Some commentators place this battle just before the start of the tribulation.)

5. The abomination of desolation. At the midway point of the seven-year tribulation, the Antichrist breaks his covenant with Israel and shows his true colors. The Jews are scattered, and many of them turn to the Lord, realizing that Jesus is their Savior. A great persecution breaks out against all those who believe in Christ (Daniel 12:11; Mark 13:14; Revelation 12:17).

6. The Battle of Armageddon. At the end of the tribulation, Jesus returns with the armies of heaven (Mark 14:62). He saves Jerusalem from annihilation and defeats the armies of the nations fighting under the banner of the Antichrist (Revelation 19:11–21). The Antichrist and the false prophet are captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20).

7. The judgment of the nations. Christ will judge the survivors of the tribulation, separating the righteous from the wicked as “sheep” and “goats” (Matthew 25:31–46). (It is thought that at this time the Old Testament saints will be raised from the dead.) The righteous will enter the Millennial Kingdom; the wicked will be cast into hell.

8. The binding of Satan. Satan will be bound and held in a bottomless pit for the next 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1–3).

9. The Millennial Kingdom. Jesus Himself will rule the world, and Jerusalem will be the capital. This will be a 1,000-year period of peace and prosperity on earth (Revelation 20; Isaiah 60–62). Memorial sacrifices will be offered in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 40–48).

10. The last battle. At the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will be released from his prison for a short time. He will deceive the nations once again, and there will be a rebellion against the Lord that will be quickly defeated (Revelation 20:7–10). Satan will be cast into the lake of fire, never to reappear.

11. The Great White Throne Judgment. All those in hell will be brought forth (resurrected in their own bodies), and all the wicked from all eras of history will be resurrected to stand before God in a final judgment (Revelation 20:11–15). Unlike those "in Christ", they are then judged by their own works. Verdicts are read, and all of sinful humanity is cast into the lake of fire.

12. The new creation. God completely remakes the heavens and the earth. We will see it happen. It is at this time that God wipes away all tears and there will be no more pain, death, or sorrow. The New Jerusalem descends from heaven, and the children of God will enjoy eternity with Him (Revelation 21–22).

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The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

by Sea Breeze in

i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

Sea Breeze

Abraham married his sister

Half sister or more probably his neice.

A master could have sex with his slaves and captured women —all morally acceptable.

If he married them, or cared for them for life as a concubine.

Neither was the case with this Samaritan woman. She was simply living with a man not her husband after 5 failed marriages which put her at the bottom for most any ANE society.... as it would even today in most instances.

I am quite sure that she did not start out in life with the goal to be married five times and then shack up with a man. For whatever reason, this is how she ended up. And, it is to this woman that Jesus first openly revealed who he was. She was lost, in many ways. And, Jesus found her.

No where in the NT bible are people told they must first clean up their life, study a WT publication, answer nearly 100 questions and be active in field service in order to trust Jesus and be saved. Belief is the only requirement.

But, works are important, just not for your salvation. Works are simply outward indications of internal belief. In the bible, works folllow belief not the other way around. JW's and their converts are more comparable to the Pharisees and their folllowers than to Jesus' followers who simply believed him.

I can't stop the tears that flow every time I see this woman liberated by Christ. Because you see, that was me

Me too VH.

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The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

by Sea Breeze in

i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

Sea Breeze

Also, JC saw in her virtues that qualified her for repentance and salvation.

Fisherman,

It is hard to understand how you could conclude this. The point of the account is that this woman didn't have any virtues. She didn't qualify for anything really. She was at the bottom of society and yet, not only did Jesus seek her out, he openly identified himself as the long foretold Messiah for the first to this woman. An unbelievable honor.

"Many first shall be last, and the last first."

It's called grace.

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The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

by Sea Breeze in

i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

Sea Breeze

A woman who had five husbands and living with a man who is not her husband would be looked upon by many as "problematic" to say the least.... even in most communities today, let alone a small community in the ancient near east.

She was alone at the well, in the heat of the day.... after the other women had already been there and got their chatting done. People do this in offices today. It's called water cooler chat. Not much has changed.

This historical account proves that God seeks out such people, in spite of their moral bankrupcy. Folks like this woman are in a unique position to experience the height of god's pure love, as seen from far below.

It is a very tender portrait of God's character.

Maybe the RULES say to shun them, but Jesus showed us there would be some reasons to "break" the rules.

I agree DOC. This is totally in line with one of Jesus' teaching about another particular law:

And he said unto them, "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" - Jesus

Of course, the concept of God's Grace is far from JW thinking and practice.... thank God.